Did Anyone Watch 20/20 Last Night? - Page 3 - Blogs & Forums - QVC Also on old footage of the trial, as there was no cameras aloud, the drawing of Christie Downs from court artist also complies with the testimony given in the book, as far as her pain and crying. Guilt or innocence no longer need to be debated in this case. For example, the abhorrent decision regarding Keli Lane: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.whimn.com.au/talk/news/why-i-think-keli-lane-should-not-be-in-prison/news-story/069a09c79589645c48de5bfa91e4ca0f. If the answer is, revenge, then it has been achieved. And if you add the fact that they never found the gun, it doesnt leave much evidenceto back upthe theory that she was the shooter. I watched the paroles hearing in 08, was lucky to find it, it was streamed live at the timemy sister, who is a whiz with computers, found it for me. But the guy who said to several people that he was the shooter happens to resemble the sketch they came up with at the time for a reason. The parole board in Oregon was asking to provide reasonable cause to show she was not a danger to society and it had to be supported by a psychiatrists report or a Wardens letter and Downs provided both. Diane recanted the stories about her dad who vehemently denied them. The photo of Hugi I used is the one you find when you do a search online for Fred Hugi who prosecuted Diane Downs. Instead of shooting the little kids, why didnt the carjacker/killer (CK) simply shoot DD dead and take her car? Dianes dad died a year or two ago. That poor girl. I simply state facts that did not or would not come out at the time or blatant misconduct from a legal system that is supposed to be based on innocent until proven guilty. Their marriage was described as tumultuous, with Downs allegedly disappearing for long periods of time with her children. Christie was born in October of 1974 and Cheryl Lynn in January of 1976. They sure forgot to tell us about her pulse racing during these sessions. I dont know either if she is guilty or not, but I believe there is a reasonable doubt surrounding the circumstances. How asinine. A group of ladies formed a group called HELDD which stands for Help Exonerate & Liberate Diane Downs. To this day, his record is mixed; his law license was suspended for6 monthsin 2011, and there was also talk of a suspension in 2015. Knick had NOT signed the premarital agreement, but that didnt stay his pursuit of Diane, knowing she was moving 1200 miles away. Diane Downs was one of the most infamous murderers of the 1980s; the emotionally flat blonde was convicted of shooting her three children, killing one of them, along a roadway in Springfield,. Only in Hollywood and in Ann Rules books, would you find such fantasy: Relevance? I never found a photo of James C. Jagger online. Washing soda is your best bet: It includes, among its ingredients, the exceedingly corrosive carbolic acid. As a married man, the ball was in his court and he decided togo forit. Where to begin? This blogger thinks that if you had bothered reading the blogs that you just mentioned, you would know that I do not call anyone innocent. While Rules book is biased, it was a look into the view of those who wanted justice for those children, wether you agree w/ their conclusion or not, that was their goal. The Diane Downs' Case Was no Small Sacrifice On May 19, 1983, Elizabeth Diane Downs and her three small children were shot on a country road near Springfield, Oregon. That same gun turned up at a police raid years later in Perris, California, and it did not match the ballistics from the shooting site. She repeated it years later at school. Two of the kids survived the shooting with life altering injuries, and one of the children died. Because she had driven that area for years for her work. In the beginning, detectives believed Diane's story, but they were not prepared for the actual story narrated by Christie, who survived the incident. There were days she was unhappy to see the staff and her family because she was very ill. That poor girl had a lot of bad moments where she would cry constantly or trigger the machines and to have defined this single incident as one of terror instead of excitement over seeing her mom was biased and self-serving. So when Dr. George Suckow from the Oregon State Hospital in Salem was called as a States rebuttal witness and he made a professional diagnosis of Diane as histrionics, antisocial and narcissistic, he openly said in court that he interviewed Diane for 1 hour and read evidence presented by the state to make his diagnosis. Bear in mind, that arm consisted of two SHARP bones, cutting at nerves and muscle (1 of bone had been blown out of the arm when the bullet shattered it, leaving three jagged holes in the flesh, out of which bulged torn muscle, and two wedge shaped bones facing each other like dueling swords). This video has Dianes attorney, Jim Jagger, at 1 minutes and 20 seconds that might have some good shots. As a suggestion, I would love to see a like or dislike button for each comment. But I think that in all fairness, many of them dont even know the details of the case and have watched Small Sacrifices instead. This unexpected proposal took Diane by surprise at a large family gathering. Two jurors had voted that Diane was not guilty of attempted murder or first-degree assault, but endedup voting to convict her of murder. At the very least, she should have been released by now. Are we to believe that Proctors second gun was stolen with the bill and ID from the first gun that remained listed at the gun store? Why Isn't Steve Bannon in Jail? Ask the Democrats. | The Nation Imagine knowing that your adoptive dad was responsible for putting your natural mom in the slammer? Diane followed the detectives to their car. I can only imagine to absolute horror of Leno and Rosemary LaBianca during their horrific murders. If you listen to the recording, Christie clearly says I dont know who did it. She was asleep, thats why. And Robert Knickerbocker became one of her lovers. Love Island's Jay Younger reveals what you DON'T see on the show The blog tries to bring balance and more objectivity to a case that was TOTALLY one sided and still is. I wanted to ask you something on this case. The most frequent remarks I hear about the case when confronted by the state misconduct and the lack of evidence are gut feelings I dont buy it Shes guilty She did it I know she did it Her story makes no sense Shes evil Shes crazy. It had to be her.. Also, the title of the website clearly demonstrates an inherit bias. She threw her keys yet was able to take off right away?? She did it. I would also like to express my disbelief that the same judge presided over both the child welfare case and the criminal one. I will change it. A steel plate had to be attached and some lead fragments were removed. It can safely be presumed, other children told their parents, and that some of those parents reported the disturbing revelation to states Attorney, Prosecutor Fred Hugi. I do not believe that this type of abuse would occur today. The person who shot the kids was leaning inside the car because they were shot at close range. If not, why not? I know several people who know or knew both of the surviving children as well as Diane. Or be mentally ill. To have separated Christie from her brother and the rest of the family to be able to get her mom was unconscionable. It is not a hatefest and I do not wish death or life without parole on anyone. In 1991, David Brewer, a juror who deliberated Dianes fate in her 1984 trial, came forward to say he and another juror had decided to acquit Downs by the close of the States presentation. But people never want to touch the high profile cases where the defendant is not likable. Their first child, Christie Ann, was born in 1974. After all, she was conditioned this way. why didn't steve downs get custody - dtdigital.net The Pros and Cons of Getting Sole Legal Custody - Verywell Family If Diane was bipolar, the non-stop chatter would have been inherent to the situation. Whats next? Gun shot residue is not always present. I had never heard of this case before I read her book (Im not from or do not live in the USA), but I found myself constantly despairing at the authors unfounded judgements and wild suppositions. Not speculative? According to Detective Welch, Steve Downs followed Diane to Oregon, they fought and Steves rage took the last step on the path hed been treading for a long time. Diane Downs' Children Now: Christie, Danny & Becky Today why didn't steve downs get custody - Arrowmtn.com She was no mother of the year, I will grant them that, but a trial is supposed to be based on evidence. Let me tell you, it wasnt just the investigators and the prosecution that didnt believe herwe, Oregonians, (who ACTUALLY live here and watched what was happening) believe she is guilty. Five doctors have observed and documented this phenomenon. I have no idea whether or not she was guilty of the crime. Meaning a trial where lying or failing to disclose exculpatory evidence by prosecutors is not happening. Most get through it fine, maybe some complications or pain, maybe even some post pardum. A. I believe Charlene and I had a big blowout around Thanksgiving and I left, called Diane. The whole blog claims the trial was flawed. You read a few comments. One of the more bizarre scenes in this farce of an investigation was about to unfold. Thanks again. 20 female celebrities with black hair to follow in 2023, 10 most famous QVC hosts who were fired or left the channel. Everything matters in a trial and investigation. Diane was instructed to reenact her response to the attacker who murdered her daughter. Is it the one you tried to use? She always seems to have not a very close contact with reality. I might not have put enough information to your liking, but I stuck to what came out at trial and not the fantasy factory coming from the state, the media and Rule. Her parents Willadene and Wes were old school Baptist parents who raised her under strict guidelines without much warmth but complete devotion. I do not have to put any statement advising people that I am about to present the neglected aspects of the trial. After the trial that convicted Diane Downs, Fred Hugi, the Prosecutor adopted Christie and Danny (they were in foster care for 2 years before he decided to adopt them), the two surviving children. Without the media blast and rush to judgment from the police and DAs office, we might have uncovered the truth. The blog I read is all about the improprieties and flat out misconduct in Dianes trial (and the way Ann Rule profited off of it with fiction). Transgender CeCe McDonald Out of Prison but Not Out of the Woods. The trial was a whole miscarriage, that seems undeniable. Fred Hugi was pretty upset when Ann Rule went Hollywood with his case. Plus, Diane could have never cleaned her clothes and her hair to remove blood and gun powder.